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  • Intake Manifold Question

    After being told my vintage "Shelby"intake would not work with AOD, owing to no provision for anchoring the Lokar linkage, decided to get a Edelbrock 2121 non egr. The other choice is a EDL7121. My engine is basically an 89 HO with a stock cam, ported E-7 heads, hipo exh.. Have a 600cfm Edelcrock (flower pot) carb and Trans is an AOD with 1800-2200 stal. Rear is 3:25. Comments?
    1968 Mustang Convertible aka "Tru Blu"

  • #2
    Originally posted by mellowyellow View Post
    vintage "Shelby"intake . Comments?
    As in 66 Shelby "COBRA" high rise???

    If it doesn't work with your set-up but is OK otherwise, let me know if you want to sell it. I'd be interested in it for my "H" clone if it'll work on a '73 302.
    Joe
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    1966 GT350H "Recreation"
    2004 F-150
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    • #3
      No, a person here wants it.
      1968 Mustang Convertible aka "Tru Blu"

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      • #4
        I'm not sure what the manifold has to do with the AOD cable. Lokar makes a mounting bracket that attaches to the carb mounting bolt. What specific reason was you given as to why it wont work?
        David G.
        1969 Mustang Sportsroof
        1998 Mustang V6 Coupe
        2002 Supercrew Lariat
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        • #5
          As stated above, Lokar will work with no mounting to the manifold. It uses the rear carb mounting stud.



          I did add a metal piece to prevent the adjusting screw that rest against base from digging in to it.
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          • #6
            OK,
            Figured I'd ask...
            Blacksmith
            1966 GT350H "Recreation"
            2004 F-150
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            • #7
              Isn't the 2121 the regular 'Performer'? If that's what you have, it's a dud. Get the Performer RPM, it's and excellent intake.

              Good Luck!
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              Mike Burch
              1966 Mustang, Toploader 4-speed
              Pump Gas Flat Tappet 302, 10.134 @ 134.71
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              • #8
                2121 is the one you want Pete.
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                Alex Denysenko
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Moneymaker View Post
                  2121 is the one you want Pete.
                  Alex, are you recommending the regular 'Performer 289' intake over the Performer RPM on an engine equipped with ported heads and headers?
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                  Mike Burch
                  1966 Mustang, Toploader 4-speed
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                  • #10
                    Stock manifolds are what he is using along with a stock AOD and stock torque converter and a Jimmy Carter crab Mike.

                    And I did mean crab.
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                    Alex Denysenko
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                    NHRA/IHRA/NMCA member and licensed Superstock driver
                    NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder 99','00,'01,'02,'03,'04,'05 & '06
                    First NHRA & IHRA 289 automatic Superstock Mustang in the TENS 06-99
                    First SS/MA in the TENS 04-03
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                    The Barry of BarrysGrrl

                    Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
                    Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
                    Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
                    Quote #4: "Go fast or go home!"
                    Quote#5:" No Brag,Just Fact!"
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                    • #11
                      Crabs are not good, luckily I never had them :banana:
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MellowYellow
                        decided to get a Edelbrock 2121 non egr. The other choice is a EDL7121. My engine is basically an 89 HO with a stock cam, ported E-7 heads, hipo exh.. Trans is an AOD with 1800-2200 stal. Rear is 3:25
                        Originally posted by Moneymaker View Post
                        Stock manifolds are what he is using along with a stock AOD and stock torque converter and a Jimmy Carter crab Mike.
                        I read hipo exhaust as something that might be able to support the RPM intake... as the 7121 is not really that wild of a piece. I think he could make use of the RPM intake, but it probably won't make a ton of difference either way right now. However, it may give him a little room to grow, in case he decides to make some upgrades in the future.

                        Good luck, either way.
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                        Mike Burch
                        1966 Mustang, Toploader 4-speed
                        Pump Gas Flat Tappet 302, 10.134 @ 134.71
                        http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?220

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                        • #13
                          Hipo exhaust as in Hipo manifolds.
                          I was at his house and saw the car and engine.
                          It's gonna be a cruiser, not a bruiser.

                          The 2121 is plenty for Pete's intended usage.
                          It'll probably never see the other side of 5k.
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                          Alex Denysenko
                          Co-Administrator

                          NHRA/IHRA/NMCA member and licensed Superstock driver
                          NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder 99','00,'01,'02,'03,'04,'05 & '06
                          First NHRA & IHRA 289 automatic Superstock Mustang in the TENS 06-99
                          First SS/MA in the TENS 04-03
                          5 time IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
                          Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28

                          The Barry of BarrysGrrl

                          Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
                          Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
                          Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
                          Quote #4: "Go fast or go home!"
                          Quote#5:" No Brag,Just Fact!"
                          www.moneymakerracing.com

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                          • #14
                            lokar

                            My lokar AOD TV cable mounted to the original throttle bracket that mounts on the back of the manifold
                            i can;t see why you can;t mount it that way to
                            we just drilled a hole under the cable hole, strung the TV cable through it & hooked her up, or am i missing something?

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                            • #15
                              OK, enough on this.
                              a)
                              It's a early S H E L BY lettered 180 intake that has no cast bosses on the back for throtle brackets. It can be made to work for PETE, but not worth the trouble.

                              b) It is VERY valuble and Pete can sell it for enough to not only buy a couple of Edelbrocks if he wants to, but have enough left over to fund some other parts he will be needing.

                              c) I'm starting to wish I never said anything about it.
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                              Alex Denysenko
                              Co-Administrator

                              NHRA/IHRA/NMCA member and licensed Superstock driver
                              NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder 99','00,'01,'02,'03,'04,'05 & '06
                              First NHRA & IHRA 289 automatic Superstock Mustang in the TENS 06-99
                              First SS/MA in the TENS 04-03
                              5 time IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
                              Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28

                              The Barry of BarrysGrrl

                              Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
                              Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
                              Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
                              Quote #4: "Go fast or go home!"
                              Quote#5:" No Brag,Just Fact!"
                              www.moneymakerracing.com

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