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  • kid vishus
    started a topic Racing updates

    Racing updates

    Since my previous thread had turned in to a novel and was not focused primarily on the racing aspect, I figured I would start a new topic to leave some not so thrilling updates in.

    Last weekend, there was a 3 day race at Rockingham. Since we had plans on saturday, I took friday off work and made my first trip ever to 'The Rock'.
    First pass, the car spun. Everyone was spinning. One guy about 4 pairs in front of me spun so hard he turned it clear around on the track. Luckily he never hit anything. I had thought the car was going to go 6.28, but it only managed a 6.31.
    Second time run I turned the 2 step down, let the tires down, and softened the rear shocks up. It hooked a lot better (I'm sure the track got better too as it got heat in it and more cars went down it), and the car went 6.286 and I had a .013 bulb. Cool, I'm all set to go some rounds and bring home the big check.
    I filled the cell back up, and as I was walking around the car I noticed a leak. Uh oh, where's that coming from. I poked my head under the car and saw fuel running out around the fitting in the bottom of my fuel pump. Dang, hopefully it's just loose. I grabbed a wrench, reached under there.....and nope, it's tight. I stuck my head under there to get a good luck and saw a crack in the middle of the 90* bend (tube type fitting.) I pulled it off, dumping 3 gallons of alchy on the ground since I didnt have a way to cap it or capture the fuel, and went trailer to trailer hoping someone would have a spare with them. Since it was an oddball, I was out of luck. I went to the tower, got part of my money back, and came home. I fixed it the very next day. I changed it up some and completely removed the filter from the inlet line.

    Yesterday, went to the track again to get some seat time and try to change my luck before the big money races coming up in November.
    Once again, I guessed the car would go 6.28 off the trailer. It went 6.291 and I was -.001 at the tree. Cool. I stuck a little time in the box, and like a dummy raised the shift point to see if the car would like that. The shift point ended up being too close to the hi end rev limter and it actually hit that chip about the same time it tried to shift, so it slowed down a touch and went 6.33 with a .013 light.
    I swapped the shift chip out, dialed it 6.30, and rolled up for first round. My light was not good, his was horrible. I drove around him, whacked it 3 times killing 4 mph and got the W going 6.330. I figured wide open it would have gone 6.310 or so. I left the 6.30 on it, went up for second round, ran it out wide open and went 6.309 and got the W. My light was a touch better but still not where I wanted it, so I took some time out of the box, left the 6.30 on the window and went back up for third round. I got lined up with car dialed 6.24 to my 6.30 so I knew we would be side by side all the way. I was .019 to his .024, and when we hit the finish line I could not tell who get there first it was that close. Turns out, he did by .001. I'm not sure why, but my car slowed down to a 6.327.
    It wasnt the outcome I was looking for, but all in all it wasnt a bad. Well, other than the float sticking on my generator after second time run causing a mild panic, but that's another story. LOL

  • Ryan Wilke
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    Ok, KV,,,,,for those of us who worked and didn't get to watch the coverage..........SPILL IT! WHAT HAPPENED!?

    Ryan

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  • kid vishus
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    I sure hope no one wasted their time watching that race just to see my catastrophe.

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  • Poppy65
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    Good luck! Hope the car performs flawlessly!

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  • Dennis112
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    Kick their asses! Good Luck Rob!

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  • Tater351C
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    Good Luck Rob! We got around 7-8 inches of snow/ice/currently some rain here today. Luckily the snow blower ran great this evening, Iím now a believer in the fuel additive Startron. Lol.......Iím planning on being in the shop tomorrow to get a bunch of small stuff done. Iíll tune the shop tv on to MotorMania and keep an eye out for ya.

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  • kid vishus
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    Well it looks like tomorrow's race is a go. At least as of right now. LOL
    We've gotten a lot of rain this week, over 5 inches to be exact, and it's supposed to get in to the low 30's tonight as well as tomorrow night. But the forecast for tomorrow looks decent; mostly sunny with a high of 54*. For anyone with hours and hours to kill, time runs start tomorrow (Friday) at (edit) due to the cold and wet overnight conditions they are expecting to not start until around 11 am eastern, and the entire race will be broadcast live here ; www.motormaniatv.com
    At the top of the screen will be a tab for "American Doorslammer Nationals", that's the race I will be attempting to run. LOL Those folks at MotorMania do a really good job broadcasting these events. Their camera coverage is really good.

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  • ford84stepside
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    Man Rob, your racing luck sounds like my trucking luck this year. It's got to get better, for both of us!

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  • kid vishus
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    Originally posted by Tater351C View Post
    Poppy....I love your post above!! I as well as Rob n everyone else that follows this sport can relate to it!!!! Well said Brother!! Rob, with Mother Nature really winning almost everything thing this year I decided to winterize my junk n call it a year. I hope you can get some runs in though. Keep us updated.
    Thanks man. Next weekend is a big money 3 day race. It's usually a really good race with good payouts, good door prizes, run by some really good guys, etc. It pays 10k,20k,10k Fri,Sat,Sun. Entry for the entire weekend is $380, or $150,$230,$150 per day. As of right now, I'll probably just enter Friday and play it by ear after that. That is, if mother nature doesnt win again. The long range forecast is rain all next weekend.

    Then Thanksgiving weekend there is a race Thurs/Fri/Sat, that pays 5k,10k,10k. Thursday is $100 entry, then each day after that is $175 per day, or $300 for both days.

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  • Dennis112
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    That's certainly one heck of a string of bad luck Rob. Mother Nature hasn't been good to any of us east coast racers this year so we all felt that pain.

    There is plenty of time to regroup over the coming winter and get a plan in motion for a fresh start next year.

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  • kid vishus
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    So, I guess I have a little time this morning to type out the novel of what happened that weekend.
    I bought a new electric fuel pump (found the one I took off the car a few years ago, but after I got the new one installed), and bought a new Holley Big Port/Volumax regulator. It's not cheap, but for the money it's a good regulator as it is alchy compatible and flows a ton. Right away I had trouble getting it to not push fuel out the front boosters. I finally got it to stop after messing with it for quite some time. So I head to the track, get there half an hour early like normal, and as soon as I try to unload the car it's not running right. I manage to keep it running long enough to realize it's pushing fuel out the front boosters again. I fire up the generator, plug in the batter charger, and go to work trying to get it to stop flooding itself. I pull the needle and seat out probably 4 or 5 times making sure there isnt any crud in it, replace it with 2 different needle and seats (all used as I didnt have any new ones), then finally said to hell with it and pulled the front float bowl off. By now they have started time runs and I havent even warmed the car up yet. I pull the front float out, pry up on the tab that the needle and seat rests on, and put it back together. I run the needle/seat down to about where it was set previously, and fire it up. Cool, it's not flooding any more. By now they have called my class to the lanes. I get everything ready and head up there and everything seems fine. I roll in to the water, and as soon as I hit the throttle I knew something was off; it would barely smoke the tires. I decide to try and make the pass anyways. The car never did get up on the 2 step and left slower than a dump truck. It would barely wind up, wasnt making any power, etc. I finally shut it off once I was out about 400-450 feet when I decided I was wasting my time. I get back to the trailer, fire the generator up, turn on the battery charger, and by time I get the hood off the car the generator is surging real bad (it's never done that before.) By time I get to it to try and see what is going on, it has died. As soon I look in the back of the truck I see gas running out of the generator. Pouring out is a better definition. Holy crap! I jump up there and shut the fuel valve off. It had been leaking a little while before it stopped running because there was about a gallon and a half of gas pooled up in the corner of that god awful plastic bedliner my dually has in it (truck wasnt sitting level so it all ran over to one corner.) At this point I said I was done for the day, plus I was needing to figure out how to get all that gas out of there without setting my truck on fire. I wasnt going to fight with the car AND fight with my generator. I walked down and was talking with KK's brother and he said "I've got that new QuickFuel alchy 850 that I put 6 passes on, you want to try it?" I figured, why not, if it worked I could always plug my charger in to his generator for the day. I grabbed the carb, went down and got it bolted on, fired up the fuel pump, and it looked like Old Faithful out the front vent tube. Crap! About then they announced we were only getting one time run. I'm done. Now just to get it running good enough to get it on the trailer (which I managed to do.)
    I came home, showered, logged on to facebook, and saw right away one of our racetrack family (our buddy Rooster) had passed away after a long battle with cancer. Perfect way to top off a sh*tty day at the track.

    Next day I decided to mess with the car to see if I could figure out what was wrong with it. I ended up putting a different new regulator on it (borrowed KK's brother's spare that was new in the box), changing the barrel by pass valve that was on the new pump, and putting my carb back on. The QF 850 had an issue all it's own. I went to drain some fuel out of it, and big pieces of rubber O ring came out of the front float bowl screw hole. WTF?!?!? It seems the O rings QF put in behind the sight glasses on their custom float bowls do not like alchy and all 4 of them came apart and filled both float bowls with chunks of rubber. They will sell you a "kit" that comes with new glass, new o ring, and a new snap ring, 6 bucks per kit. Each bowl requires 2. You would think an $800+ carb designed for alchy would have alchy compatible parts in it. I guess not. Turned out when I set the float based off the screw height after I had pried up on the tab, I had it set so low there is no way it was going to run right. So that was the primary issue with my carb not running right. I do think the bypass barrel that the "cheap" fuel pump came with was junk, and there was something wrong with the regulator not holding pressure.

    Oh! We cant forget this part. So I have talked to a couple of different people pertaining to why my injection was inconsistent. The general consensus was that it was a pump issue. Everyone said when theirs did that, it was always the pump. When I pulled the pump off to go back to the carb, the pulley on it was loose. Not so loose it would turn on the shaft, but loose enough it wobbled. That's not good, but probably not enough to cause the issue by itself. However, when I was I fighting with the QF carb, it flooded the motor bad enough it wouldnt turn over. I decided I was gonna put a wrench on the crank and turn the motor back a little before I pulled the plugs out and I discovered the crank bolt was about to fall out of the crank. Well, not really about to fall out, but I turned it in a bunch with my fingers. Why that is an issue is the crank pulley for the fuel pump (cog style belt) is on the end of a long mandrel that presses against the balancer and uses the clamping force of the bolt to keep it spinning at the same rate as the crank. It HAD to be slipping, especially that last injection pass. Did I mention I've NEVER had that bolt back out before?

    This has been a pretty crappy year for me at the track. I'm tired of spending money (huge amounts of it) on the car and still have stuff not work right. At t his point, I'm not even going to use those B351 heads that came with that 393 I just bought. I have no desire to spend 900 bucks on headers AND have to buy a $1500 dominator carb to fit that intake. I think I'm gonna sell those heads and intake and epoxy up a set of iron heads for that motor.

    So there it is. You asked for it. LOL

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  • ford84stepside
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    Time to copy the street outlaws Rob! Find a road out in the country somewhere and make some quick hits, then load up and get the hell outta there!

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  • Tater351C
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    Poppy....I love your post above!! I as well as Rob n everyone else that follows this sport can relate to it!!!! Well said Brother!! Rob, with Mother Nature really winning almost everything thing this year I decided to winterize my junk n call it a year. I hope you can get some runs in though. Keep us updated.

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  • kid vishus
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    They pulled the plug on this weekend pretty early this morning.
    They cited the reason for it as it is supposed to get down to 25* tomorrow night. Myself and a lot of other racers are wondering since they are starting time runs at 10 am, why not give one time run then go racing? They would be done before 8 pm, and it wont be that cold yet. But sadly in this day and age, especially around here, tracks just look for an excuse to cancel.
    That means next weekend (if this other track doesnt pull the plug as well), I will be making one time run after paying a high entry fee on a car that hasnt been down the track cleanly yet since the induction swap.

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  • kid vishus
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    LOL
    You were close, but I fixed it the next day. However, my thought of one more trip like that one and it's getting sold hasnt changed.

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