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  • Intercooler For Roots S/C

    I noticed they make them for marine applications, but what about automotive? Is it possible do you you think to make one yourself? It would have to bolt between the blower the intake--- would you have to have a reservoir to hold fluid that would cycle through it? Any ideas?
    Luke
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  • #2
    That's where the Lightning intercooler is located, to cool the air intake charge.

    Under the S/C


    In the Valley (S/C mounting plate still in place)


    Then the fluid flows to the reservoir, then to the charge air cooler (cools the fluid) mounted behind the front grille, in front of the rad.

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    • #3
      I didn't even think about those being intercooled, the S/C Cobras are intercooled too aren't they?

      Heres what I was looking at prior:
      http://www.superchiller.com/pages/174.html

      So you could use that and have a reservoir (How big of a reservoir would you need and what would be the best type of fluid to run in it for maximum cooling?) and have an oil or trans cooler mounted behind the grille?

      The price of that one above is pretty steep, but I remember reading over at turbomustangs tons of folks we're making their own intercoolers. Would it be possible to make one like above with relative ease?
      Luke
      For every minute you are angry you lose sixty seconds of happiness. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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      • #4
        FoMoCo uses elthylene-glycol in their inter-cooler systems. How much, I fergit. Stewart can fill you in on that one. Another tidbit it the mode of circulation. FoMoCo uses a small 12 volt pump. The blowers on the mod-motors are a horse of a different color though. They run mostly in by-pass mode under normal driving conditions while the intake is under vaccuum. Once the engine goes from vaccuum to no vaccuum, then a whole lot of stuff happens. The intercooler kicks on. The by-pass closes. Boost is built exponentially. The compressor growls. Tires spin.

        BDS sells an entire rig for SBFs and BBFs that includes many choices of blowers, drive systems and ratio options, manifold, intercooler, distributor, etc, etc.
        Paul

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        • #5
          I'd all ready assumed the use of an electric pump of some sort---
          Unfortuanetly on the BDS behalf, I all ready have a complete blower setup minus the intercooler.

          Did I understand you right saying it'd be better to have the intercooler fluid bypass until under heavy acceleration then it would be routed through the intercooler itself?

          EDIT: E-mailed the Teague Marine place with the above intercooler, asked them how theirs was used and if it was sold to anyone in an automotive application:



          They did state that it was sold in automotive applications, but they'd never helped or done an install on one.
          Luke
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          • #6
            If I remember correctly, FoMoCo has the pump is off unless boost happening. Stewart can confirm this. Wheter good or bad, I dunno. I would think it would be better off unless there's boost, therby keeping the ethylene glycol cool for when it's really needed.

            BDS won't set you up with the intercooler separately?
            Paul

            70 Mach1 351C/FMX
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            97 Expedition XLT 5.4
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            • #7
              Originally posted by BlueMule View Post

              BDS won't set you up with the intercooler separately?
              You know, stupid as this sounds, I didn't think of that. I might just have to find that out

              Appreciate the suggestion
              Luke
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              • #8
                Originally posted by BlueMule View Post
                If I remember correctly, FoMoCo has the pump is off unless boost happening. Stewart can confirm this. Wheter good or bad, I dunno. I would think it would be better off unless there's boost, therby keeping the ethylene glycol cool for when it's really needed.

                BDS won't set you up with the intercooler separately?
                There is a slight delay (seconds, i'd say...never timed it) before the IC pump kicks on, after you start the engine. But for the Gen 2 L's, the IC cooling system is always in operation, no matter the boost/vacuum, engine temp, or RPM's.

                Stewart
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                1999 Lightning
                - WMS longblock

                2002 PSD 4X2 F250 S/C
                - 4" turbo back, AFE Stage 1. More to come

                2000 PSD 4X4 Excursion
                - John Wood tranny, AFE Stage 2, MBRP 4", DP-Tuner, V and B code springs.

                1990 25th Anniversary Mustang GT
                - Stolen, stripped, now stored.

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                • #9
                  I wonder how the IC works for our '93 SC? I know it's got one, the cooler takes up about a 1/3 of the normal radiator space.
                  Rob Hetzler
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                  • #10
                    Tossed the idea around last night--- looked at BDS prices and still in the lower 1,000 dollar range.

                    Was thinking what if you got a piece of say.. 1x1 aluminum however long enough to do front, back, and sides cut the aluminum into 4th's and welded each piece together. For the sides you could have holes cut lower for horizontal piping (say 1/4 copper or steel?) and then for the front and back you could have holes cut higher for vertical piping; making a cross hatch design. Or you could do it out of one solid piece of aluminum block, but figured the other would be cheaper.

                    Could you use a vacuum activated switch to turn the 12v pump on? Say set it up with a relay so when vacuum reaches a certain point it'd open the relay to turn on the 12v inline pump. And voila-- ready to go?

                    Seems like that'd be alot cheaper and depending on how much time you took cutting the aluminum could be made to look pretty damn nice. You could even make caps for front and sides to cover the piping if so desired at a later date.
                    Luke
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