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  • Finally got my Sig... sort of

    Took the jump, been wanting a P938 for at least a year now, went and bought it, problem is it's still sitting in the store because I got a delay, thats the second time!Image result for sig p938 nitron
    Ron

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    Congrats? LOL. Why the delay?
    Rick Stevens
    Billet Fluid Line Clamps: www.lsbilletworks.com

    - FFR Mark III Cobra Replica (aka Rayne)
    - 68 Mustang Coupe - drag car under construction
    - 2012 F250 Powerstroke

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    • #3
      FBI delay, that's the second time that's happened to me. You must wait 3 days then you can pick it up.
      Ron

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      • #4
        That's a .380 with all 1911 operating features, outwardly.....SIG makes great guns ... and the 938 is a nice compact pistol.

        A question for you Ron .... in my opinion, 1911 type pistols should be carried in 'Condition ONE' ... that is 'Cocked & locked' (a round in the chamber, hammer back, pistol on safe).
        Will you carry it like that ??
        I imagine today's single action pistols have a safe firing pin, to eliminate a round firing if the pistol is dropped. So ......... will you carry in Condition 2 ? (round in the chamber, hammer down) requiring you to cock the pistol with your strong hand thumb... (or some use support hand thumb)
        I hope you will NOT carry in Condition 3 ... Pistol un-cocked, NO round in the chamber, full magazine ... requiring the shooter to draw the pistol, rack the slide all the way back to cock the hammer and chamber a round, and then get a sight picture with the front sight and eliminate your target.
        In a tense, fear and adrenaline filled moment, like taking on a human predator, that is IMO, way too much wasted time .... and wasted time in that situation, could leave one DEAD !
        Eddie "D"
        '70 Sports Roof, 351 W, 13.1 @ 107: Maple Grove.
        "The deadliest weapon in the world is a U.S. Marine and his rifle." Quote by General John J. Pershing U.S. Army.
        M&M Member #339.

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        • #5
          I carry my Kimber in Condition 1 in a CompTac holster. Given the slide lock, hammer/pin safety, and the grip safety, I feel pretty good about it.
          Rick Stevens
          Billet Fluid Line Clamps: www.lsbilletworks.com

          - FFR Mark III Cobra Replica (aka Rayne)
          - 68 Mustang Coupe - drag car under construction
          - 2012 F250 Powerstroke

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ci8UUP View Post
            FBI delay, that's the second time that's happened to me. You must wait 3 days then you can pick it up.
            Wow. That's a bummer. Glad you can pick it up in a couple of days.

            Do they do anything else during those 3 days in terms of background ? One would tend to think they would clear it after it happened the first time.
            Rick Stevens
            Billet Fluid Line Clamps: www.lsbilletworks.com

            - FFR Mark III Cobra Replica (aka Rayne)
            - 68 Mustang Coupe - drag car under construction
            - 2012 F250 Powerstroke

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            • #7
              Originally posted by lonewolf View Post



              Do they do anything else during those 3 days in terms of background ? One would tend to think they would clear it after it happened the first time.
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              here in PA when someone is delayed, the system (local,state & federal) is rechecked for the persons criminal record. at the shop we were told it may be due to
              a criminal having the same last name and/or a similar address or a SSN being 1 digit off of the person buying the firearm.
              if they are cleared the shop gets a call stating it is ok to proceed with the sale & we call the customer to pick it up.
              if they are denied the sale cannot be finalized but they have the option of mailing in a form to challenge the denial.
              most denials are on the spot.

              a few years ago the shop had 1 person where during the instant check the state police asked us to tell the individual that there was a problem with the system & ask him to wait there, he agreed to wait. 40 minutes later there were 3 troopers in the shop to escort him to jail !
              34 FORD coupe...Cleveland POWERED

              it`s nice to be important but it is more important to be nice.

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              • #8
                I was told that a high percentage of the time the authorities never get back with the store, they simply let the 3 day expiration happen and then you can pick it up, thank God for that rule or else you would have people waiting 6 months to get cleared like getting a federal tax stamp.

                Eddie, my big fear is accidental discharge, I will likely carry in condition 1 or 2, it all depends, but never in 3. I know that sounds goofy but it's comfort thing for me. With my .380 DA I carry with a round chambered because there is hardly any chance I'm going to discharge the weapon accidentally. With my HK D/A S/A I carry chambered and usually in decocked position with safety on, but if I'm coming into a situation that makes me nervous I will sneak down and pull the hammer back, I love the HK but it's still to big for my tastes to carry concealed. The .380 is perfect for concealed carry but it's lacking fire power, the sig 938 is only a tad bit bigger and heavier than the .380, this sig would be ideal for me if it was D/A S/A

                BTW, I always have everything chambered as a rule so there is no mistaking one gun from another, I know each gun I touch is chambered so as not to be careless, even my vault weapons in the house are chambered.
                Ron

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                • #9
                  Well I finally brought it home, love the size and light weight! after playing with it a bit I'll likely carry in condition 1, the safety is not easily disengaged like my HK. Can't wait to shoot it!
                  Ron

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                  • #10
                    Ron I mis-spoke above saying .380. I know the 928 is a 9mm. A couple of questions. That has to be the most compact 9mm available.

                    1. Can you put all three fingers around the butt (grip) or does your 'pinkie' hang out loose ?
                    2. Does the 938 come with a magazine that has an extended rest for your 3rd finger ?
                    3. Have you decided on what ammo you will use when you carry concealed ?

                    Let us know how you like it and how it performs on the range...

                    Don't shoot your eye out buddy !!

                    Eddie "D"
                    '70 Sports Roof, 351 W, 13.1 @ 107: Maple Grove.
                    "The deadliest weapon in the world is a U.S. Marine and his rifle." Quote by General John J. Pershing U.S. Army.
                    M&M Member #339.

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                    • #11
                      Eddie, it's the most compact and lightweight 1911 style pistol on the market,
                      Sig P938 Specs Overall Length: 5.9" Height:: 3.9" Barrel Length: 3" Width: 1.1" Weight: 16 ounces.

                      although the Kimber micro 9 is damn close, the problem with the Kimber is they don't offer a ambi safety in the entry level model, so you need to spend an extra couple hundred to get the ambi, stupid move on their part if you ask me.

                      3 fingers easily for me without the mag extension, you cannot get your fourth (pinky) finger on it, but you can with the mag extension although a bit tight. It only comes with 1 mag so that is a negative but that's only another $40

                      Haven't decided what ammo to carry with, any suggestions? I really don't care for the +P ammo, I used to but now I think it puts too much stress on the gun, plus using +P in a small gun is tough to handle.
                      Ron

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                      • #12
                        Ron, there are so many "new" types of ammo out there, figuring out which one is best is impossible. In a compact 9mm like yours I would think ... light bullet, more speed. less recoil. There is new ammo out there called Poly-case ARX.
                        I can't explain the chemistry behind it, but it is a fluted, light projectile made from a propriety blend of material. The projectile is light and very fast, and according to 'tests' it has devastating wound results and less recoil.
                        Here are some reviews:

                        https://www.americanrifleman.org/art...se-arx-bullet/

                        Firing the relatively lightweight bullets produced notably reduced levels of felt recoil, especially in pocket-size, concealed-carry pistols. The PolyCase loads ignited without the choking clouds of smoke that accompany some brands of ammunition. Downrange accuracy was on par with other premium defensive handgun loads.

                        http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammo/pe...case-arx-ammo/

                        The Cu/P PolyCase ARX bullets are approximately 35 percent lighter in weight than typical jacketed lead-core bullets, so they can be fired at higher velocities. Kinetic energy sacrificed by the reduced bullet weight is almost fully reclaimed by the enhanced velocity. Another important plus is that a Cu/P round generates appreciably less recoil, meaning itís easier on the gun and the shooter.

                        I don't have any personal experience with this ammo, but it looks pretty good for a compact pistol.
                        Eddie "D"
                        '70 Sports Roof, 351 W, 13.1 @ 107: Maple Grove.
                        "The deadliest weapon in the world is a U.S. Marine and his rifle." Quote by General John J. Pershing U.S. Army.
                        M&M Member #339.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 70 Pony View Post
                          Ron, there are so many "new" types of ammo out there, figuring out which one is best is impossible. In a compact 9mm like yours I would think ... light bullet, more speed. less recoil. There is new ammo out there called Poly-case ARX.
                          I can't explain the chemistry behind it, but it is a fluted, light projectile made from a propriety blend of material. The projectile is light and very fast, and according to 'tests' it has devastating wound results and less recoil.
                          Here are some reviews:

                          https://www.americanrifleman.org/art...se-arx-bullet/

                          Firing the relatively lightweight bullets produced notably reduced levels of felt recoil, especially in pocket-size, concealed-carry pistols. The PolyCase loads ignited without the choking clouds of smoke that accompany some brands of ammunition. Downrange accuracy was on par with other premium defensive handgun loads.

                          http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammo/pe...case-arx-ammo/

                          The Cu/P PolyCase ARX bullets are approximately 35 percent lighter in weight than typical jacketed lead-core bullets, so they can be fired at higher velocities. Kinetic energy sacrificed by the reduced bullet weight is almost fully reclaimed by the enhanced velocity. Another important plus is that a Cu/P round generates appreciably less recoil, meaning itís easier on the gun and the shooter.

                          I don't have any personal experience with this ammo, but it looks pretty good for a compact pistol.
                          That is some pretty wild stuff! I did a bunch more reading on them and I'm confused, is it a brass case or not? It states they developed it so it's one use ammunition, but they have reload data available so I don't understand that. I was curious about the brass case because if it's not brass then I don't know of any range that I could use it at.
                          Ron

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                          • #14
                            Ron, I have a box of the ARX in 45 ACP in it sure as hell looks like brass to me. I read that their casings might be a stainless steel. If they are they are, then they are a brass colored SS. I wouldn't worry about it.
                            Like I said I have the "Ruger" ARX in 45 and as far as I can tell the cases are BRASS...
                            Eddie "D"
                            '70 Sports Roof, 351 W, 13.1 @ 107: Maple Grove.
                            "The deadliest weapon in the world is a U.S. Marine and his rifle." Quote by General John J. Pershing U.S. Army.
                            M&M Member #339.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 70 Pony View Post
                              Ron, I have a box of the ARX in 45 ACP in it sure as hell looks like brass to me. I read that their casings might be a stainless steel. If they are they are, then they are a brass colored SS. I wouldn't worry about it.
                              Like I said I have the "Ruger" ARX in 45 and as far as I can tell the cases are BRASS...
                              Well the ranges around here don't let you shoot anything but brass, I got a lecture from the rangemaster last time for shooting some aluminum cased.
                              Ron

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